Never used one in 20 years, and I've avoided all the expense of setting them up, costs of maintaining them and the cumbersome and convoluted administrative aspects of operating with them.But I must admit I have missed all the benefits of being able to hobnob with those pretending to be players by showing off my all my LLCs.

@Justin Thorpe and the national debt number is $27T today but in 08 it was $10T; are the players really more discipline?

I think you will find the most experienced TK players will not operate in hoods like this for many practical reasons. 

@Suzanne Player I have talked to a mortgage broker who specifically works with investors, he told me to hold off until we can claim the money we make from our business.I own an Interior/Architectural Design company with my wife which we do well with, but we've only claim 1 year of income from it. 

A couple of ways to find these guys: * RE Agents - If they are a seasoned agent they usually know a few players in the area * Mortgage Brokers - Same * Hard money lenders - Same * Local REIA * BP - look at member's profile pagesI hope that helps!

Most players in the industry have spent their entire careers dedicated to hotels/hospitality.  

But he was a Hoarder and a player. 

She is a wonderful agent in Memphis that works with investors and Evernest is a major player in property management in Memphis! 

In the survival of the fittest only big players could survive.

In my experience I almost got scammed by a big player, oftened recommended on these forums.