Both of these moves are illusions. 

The snarling wolf comes to the door, and you realize that illusions were all you had in the first place.

It defers the expense for the provider and it gives the homeowner the illusion of managed maintenance until they can cash in on the replacement clause.In a rental, the landlord should have a repair budget set-aside, and fixing problems for good when they crop up is essential to high tenant retention.As a PM, they make it harder for me to do my job, and they are essentially duplicating some of my functions, without the responsibility for the tenant's state of mind.

You right.But as the great Ugway says in Kung Fu Panda: "Controle is an illusion."

$1050 mortgage payment including tax and ins. each unit is rented for $1000 mo. planning on getting a heloc for 10% = $24k that ill use towards another property after I file taxes this year. any other advice is welcomed!

Providing info like this gives the illusion what you state is fact.

pretty much all turnkeys are scams to be blunt I am tired of listing the reasons why....it's a shame so many people are suckered into the illusion of making millions with turnkey... there is no profit potential.  

It is an illusion it doesn't work!

If we do, I don't live with the illusion that having one will make divorce easy.I'm pretty sure divorce is messy.

2008 Chevrolet Silverado Z71 Crew Cab2004 Mazda TributeToys:2008 Go-Devil Boat (duck boat)2007 Majek Illusion w/ 300hp Yamaha (fishing boat)