Quote from @Bryan Escudero: @Mike Beer I joined RaiseMasters about 4 weeks ago (during recovery from a surgery).

I also want to be active in other rust-belt cities that are similar to Milwaukee and I want to be part of their eventual comeback: Cleveland, Detroit, Pittsburgh, St.

 @Bryan Maddex tremendous advise.

Quote from @Bryan Keller: It's not dead in Vail.

Can we all agree a dollar made in Austin TX or Bryan TX or Dallas TX or San Francisco CA, or Nashville TN or any where spends the same wherever you choose to spend that dollar.  

Prior to the GFC I had a pretty robust HML company with 20 plus employees doing 60 HML a month through out the mid west Rust belt and deep south by 2010 It was over like 95% of all HML we all got our butts handed to us..

Almost all are mid west or rust belt thats the only place those values exist and those houses at 40k are beat up and need rehab most are not habitable As is..

Just the other day I saw someone had used black sheet rock screws in the hangers on a brand new deck (non-permitted obviously, and not a single lag or any flashing on the ledger board, and they painted it immediately before the pressure treated lumber had even dried out so that’s going to peal in the first year, at about the same time that those sheetrock screws start to rust lol). 

when you get to the rust belt and mid west no real need for it in a big way when you can still buy nice SFRs for 150 to 300k all day long.

I can give you a crash course on the good, the bad and the ugly of Binghamton.Binghamton is something of a unicorn market at the moment; it's a rust belt city with a history of low incomes and low property values.