There are two schools of thought on this, I've had plumbers (that sell the products) tell me how great moen are and how they have a lifetime warranty and how the parts are always available.

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With our product, it’s possible to acquire the property for $30K (20% down) and get the reno costs financed for $11,250 (15% down).

So these loan products aren't generally available, I assume?

The loan products are differentiated for a reason.

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You can always look at a portfolio loan product that is more asset based they will only look at the income of the property itself.

If that's not you then I would suggest that overkilling the presentation on a used product, you may be actually trying to pull a "slight of photo" move to draw attention away from something undesirable. 

I find myself sourcing info from multiple websites (Zillow, Redfin, Realtor.com, Trulia) but do not have a good direction/process to get to my final product of a well thought out ARV.Thanks for your help as always,Andrew

I use both as a RE investor between commercial and residential as both can be used on 1-4 unit properties (non owner/investment occupancy).The pro's of commercial/portfolio financing from local credit unions and community banks are that you can:- talk to a local banker/lender who is interested in building a relationship with you over time and is flexible to make a loan as long as its financially prudent and you show a track record- ability to build a track record with- less documentation scrutiny than a fannie/freddie conventional loan which is more ridged because it needs to be sold to the secondary market so all boxes must be checked to do so (otherwise the loan is unsellable or undeliverable)- is cashflow based via debt coverage ratio or DCR method of qualification (Net operating income / debt service) - can fund to LLC's, entities, and businesses with personal guarantee (PG) usually- can do unique loans like cross collateral or blanket notes across an entire portfolio, can do rehab/construction + permanent financing into one (one time close products), can do soft liens and releasable upon progress on your projects so you can leverage equity with temporarily encumbrances, unique disbursements on credit facilities,etc Hope that helped compare the cash out options.