But when you consider how many of those people are here illegally, thus being in the default position of not being able to afford it while contributing nothing (20ish million) you can about cut that in half.

I have great respect for first generation immigrants who come here and contribute to the capitalist system.

#2 This guy say's he's going to find a great deal on property, and I better get his name and number...We did a few exercises, he went to his next REI meeting and came home with 5 new numbers that he didn't have to ask for...Investors now wanted him, as bad as he wanted them...He had been to 3 other meetings, with the same people and all 3 times he left the meetings not with lead, but with a sinking feeling in his gut that he was destined for failure...Which of course contributed to the problem even more at the next meeting...Here I'll explainThe problem is many rookies MISTAKINGLY believe that by talking a big game (which they usually fail at as well) that they will get investors to work with them...The trouble is 90% of communication happens on a subconscious level....In fact, in many cases the investors who turn you away probably don't even know why they don't want to give you a chance....they just get that "FEELING" from you, and gut feelings are basically a quick snap decision from the subconscious mind....You have probably had a similar experience when you meet someone and something doesn't feel right, or they just seem to be full of B.S....It's because "WHAT YOU SAY" is far less important than "HOW YOU SAY IT".The only way to change the "how you say it" is to change your attitude and beliefs about you and you're business.

This BP site is ridiculously valuable thanks to the contribution of you and some of the other experts.

What makes this site so valuable is the contributions from others.

To increase my selling profit, I can come back with a higher price, a lower closing cost contribution, or some combination of both.My question to the group- is there a strategic advantage to flexing on one of these rather than the other?

I truly believe there is a great shift of wealth occurring now and I want to make sure I am on the receiving side of the equation.This seems to be a fantastic resource and I look forward to building relationships here and contributing as much as possible.

Many people have multiple names, no social security number, some don't know there dates of birth, etc. so the task will take a couple of generations, I think.Credit is fairly easy to get for properties because buyers make a significant equity contribution and most banks are government-owned and the government pretty much forces them to lend.

I thank everyone for the information I have gained so far from this site and hope to make positive contributions in the future.Lisa

Most of it is "C" class and we've developed a model which bypasses the real estate and lending communities.I look forward contributing what resources I have, learning from the experts, and finding resources you all are willing to contribute.Danno :D