But I think using 8% is ideal.The deal cash flows on the 50% rule.

Thanks, FYI: Texas has wonky state-specific rules regarding cash out refinances that are alien to anyone not in Texas, including myself.

If this is a foreclosure sale then all participating bidders must play by the same rules... competitive bidding. 

If I have an ARV of 249k using the 70% rule places me at about 174k... minus my commission, also the closing costs.

I keep thinking that I have been taking to much out for expenses.What is everyone's thoughts on using the 50% RULE????

That's a pretty good number and easily exceeds the so called 1% rule. 

So he's got rules.

I prefer to believe that the responses were meant to be blunt rather than meant to be hurtful.Rules of thumb have so many exceptions that they typically do not make very good rules but ...There is a 75% rule that is generically what investors desire to pay in total of the ARV price. 

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