Truth be told, the deals past y me so far are laughable.

But, having responded without reading what you wrote just doesn't seem rational...and I'm generally pretty rational.As for my response, your post essentiallly said that you stopped doing X and moved forward doing Y.

Say I can get a 15 y/o house that is ready to rent, nothing needs immediate attention for 100k. 30 year deal, 6%, P&I is 600, say I can rent it for 1300.

@Jay Y.

Any day that ends in "y". 

The fees probably dont vary as much as you would think...while one may charge more for X fee, Y fee is cheaper.  

The second issue is that if you're concerned about the quality of the information he is providing you why wouldn't you tell the man what you need him to give you (my apologies if you're already explained that your learning curve was x & now its Y).  

The common theme in most of these threads is you can use x, y, and z however always try to get it from the MLS as it will be more accurate and thorough.

If you have no such experience, then obvious,y you can't lie.

he was fair and not so hype-y, when you compare him to the guru bunch, in his promotion of courses.My reason for going to seminar world way back when was for similar reasons others did/do: i wanted to hit the ground running with the "proper" guidelines for evaluating property. i was hoping for a road map... a business plan in a box.