Absentee owners lists are the new low hanging fruit and thus the most promoted so most investors and wholesalers go after it to find deals. 

Hey Michael pretty crazy but I just got a list in excel format so I am trying to scrub to send out to you (Yellow letters) for my mailings so it's a pretty raw list straight from the assessors office.

My direct mail campaigns have been the most fruitful for me.

IE they have no real financial commitment to the deal other than the 10 dollar EM and then they try to flip it.. by advertising to the public..I have to assume your business is not going into contract for next to nothing then plastering the deal all over the internet and craigs list hoping for a sale and if you don't get one you walk because you only lots 10 dollars or a hundred dollars etc.I know this is not your deal as in CA even the low hanging fruit will not generally let people tie up property for such ridiculously low amounts.I for one am really happy to see the banks and Hud now request 10% EM to buy their property I funded 3 this week 12k on one 8 k another another 9k... for my folks.average no money wholesaler is not going to be able to play or if they do they won't be able to tie up many ..I wish more sellers would understand this and require CA like EM deposits.Indeed my business is not going into contract and then doing email blasts to market the property.  

If you can stay the path, you absolutely will see the fruits of your labor.

I totally get your point about raw ROI numbers but there's also an emotional aspect to investing.

Keep it in good enough condition to allow me to see the true fruits of the investment when it’s been paid off in 15, 20 or 30 years.

Garrett-Numa @Rod JosephI think Private Money Goldmine gets their leads from MyHouseDeals.comBoth show names and phone numbers of lenders, along with their lending criteria.And I think MyHouseDeals.com gets their leads from REWW.comREWW.com gives out Raw Leads...Meaning, you pull recent Real Estate Sales that show Private Investors as the 1st TD Lien Holders. 

I'm not one to judge in those grey areas, but it seems the other lenders are getting a raw deal.Vignette:Investor #1 - Buys HOA liens with the intent to pay back the HOA.

Most of the people making money are the developers buying raw land and creating lots, but you will need deep pockets for this and be able to carry costs for more than a year waiting for any money to come in.