I love Arizona personally, but perhaps there’s a natural cap on how many people should live in a place with very little water (less than 8 inches of rainfall a year on average in Phoenix). 

Glad to see this thread turned into the normal tribal us-vs-them, we are right, they are wrong debate, with both sides not ever ceding one inch to the other, all in the name of being "right", which moves us all further from the truth.

in this market to expect all your money back and to be positive 200 a month is a pretty tall order.people get 200 a month when they put 20 to 30% cash equity into the homes.. hard to have your cake and eat it to.. or you need to TAKE the risk of buying paper tigers..

Example someone on the cell phone looking down seemingly unaware of their surroundings versus a person walking tall, head up, scanning the area as they walk. 

I look back on some of my first logging jobs in the early 90's and there are already nice little stands of timber coming up 20 feet tall or more its a renewable recourse.  

But the saying “give them an inch they take a mile” come true.

I got a tall order for 2020 and setting the bar very high for myself!

Finding a multifamily to house hack is becoming an increasingly tall order, especially with limited inventory and battling through multiple offers.

What I look for is stuff like garbage bag windows, boarded up windows and doors, over-filled mailboxs, unkept garden/flower bed, tall grass and exterior house paint chipping away.When I've approached some of these houses, many of the home owners were nice people, have no problems with their finances and not looking to sell whatsoever. 

Thinking of your warm Florida weather now as we bask in several inches of snow ;).