that we’ve learned in our 24 years, managing almost 700 doors across the Metro Detroit area, including almost 100 S8 leases:Class A Properties:Cashflow vs Appreciation: Typically, 3-5 years for positive cashflow, but you get highest relative rent & value appreciation.Vacancy Est: Historically 10%, 5% the more recent norm.Tenant Pool: Majority will have FICO scores of 680+ (roughly 5% probability of default), zero evictions in last 7 years.Class B Properties:Cashflow vs Appreciation: Typically, decent amount of relative rent & value appreciation.Vacancy Est: Historically 10%, 5% should be applied only if proper research done to support.Tenant Pool: Majority will have FICO scores of 620-680 (around 10% probability of default), some blemishes, but should have no evictions in last 5 yearsClass C Properties:Cashflow vs Appreciation: Typically, high cashflow and at the lower end of relative rent & value appreciation.

:Class A Properties:Cashflow vs Appreciation: Typically, 3-5 years for positive cashflow, but you get highest relative rent & value appreciation.Vacancy Est: Historically 10%, 5% the more recent norm.Tenant Pool: Majority will have FICO scores of 680+ (roughly 5% probability of default), zero evictions in last 7 years.Class B Properties:Cashflow vs Appreciation: Typically, decent amount of relative rent & value appreciation.Vacancy Est: Historically 10%, 5% should be applied only if proper research done to support.Tenant Pool: Majority will have FICO scores of 620-680 (around 10% probability of default), some blemishes, but should have no evictions in last 5 yearsClass C Properties:Cashflow vs Appreciation: Typically, high cashflow and at the lower end of relative rent & value appreciation.

. ~20% were decent and "stuck". 

So someone that would be considered to be a "great" syndicator to say an aggressive investor, will look pretty awful to a conservative one (and vice versa).

MTR brought in 75% of the gross and more of the net due to lower cleaning fees for turning over the STR.For gross numbers we brought in about 1.2% of the ARV value in monthly rent this year which is decent based on the rules of thumb at least. 

@Clare Pitcher we do 12+ month leases to avoid vacancies Nov-Feb.If we take over an occupied property, evict or have tenancy-abandon a property, we first let the owner know finding a tenant will take longer than "normal".This opens up owners to understanding they may need to:1) Offer 3D tour and floor plans to stand out2) Price more aggressively or be prepared for aggressive price reductions3) Offer MoveIn Specials:- NOTE: we do NOT recommend offering a month of free rent that can be used at MoveIn.

There is some room for creativity here, but it takes careful planning and execution, and there is only so far you can push it before crossing the line from aggressive but legal to reckless and punishable.GROUP 2: Legitimate tax strategies, just not for the EOY to-do listForm an S-corporation.

Quote from @Kent Fang ching: Quote from @Bruce Lynn: @Kent Fang ching  Those numbers are pretty aggressive for DFW-Dallas area in my opinion. 

It will be a contractor role, so a bit of bird doggin, but from what Ive gathered they have a pretty decent leads system and expanding on lead funnels in the new year.  

Even for a credit union that's pretty aggressive, and at a high level, seems like a great deal.