What I can share is that the risk-reward will not be worth it as a 'newbie' due to your limited capital and inability to actively manage your properties. 

We learned a lot about project based Section8 buildings, but are now actively pursing more projects like this.

What ROI do you need to justify the liability and active nature of owning a rental property?

It's great to hear from someone active in the Rochester market.

I want to keep them separate to manage activities according to each regulatory agency.

Use surveys to gather feedback on their experience.When tenants feel valued and respected, they’re more likely to take care of the property and renew their leases, saving owners time and money.Fairness with VendorsVendors play a crucial role in maintaining properties, and treating them fairly ensures they remain reliable partners.

but if you have a view on active vs. passive income.my goal is to have income from multiple sources, ideally part time work that i enjoy is a component. 

It's not illegal provided you're dislosing it to all parties and not trying to actively hid it.

But it’s clear you’re a smart investor who knows the long-term benefits real estate can bring.I keep reminding myself why I stick with real estate: you can make money every month in four different ways:Cash Flow – Passive income to live on.Appreciation – Long-term property value growth.Depreciation – Tax benefits that reduce your taxable income.Tenants Paying Down the Mortgage – Even if you’re paid off now, this is one of the biggest wealth-building tools for leveraged properties.It sounds like your main struggle is the stress of active management—and trust me, you’re not alone.

Hey @Denise Evans and everyone diving into the BRRRR world, you’re raising a crucial point about making sure every single penny is acounted for before signing on that dotted line.