I’m not cheering for @James Wise, however @Lenza M. you probably permanently burned a lot of bridges behind you on this thread of which you probably realize by now.

Purchase price: $65,000 120 acres of wildland surrounded by national forest, in the midst of the Dixie Fire (2021) burn scar.

Purchase price: $65,000 120 acres of wildland surrounded by national forest, in the midst of the Dixie Fire (2021) burn scar.

@Robert Burns - is your primary goal to invest for cash flow or appreciation?

There are sponsors (on this thread) that I got burned from and the blame is on the economy and interest rates.

In many areas that is like getting blood from a stone and involved more legal fees  if the contractor burned you it is probably not the first time. 

No real post history, then you pop in with a detailed, positive response about a company that has burned so many people in this forum. 

There’s higher risk that you burn out with more difficult tenants (even if you use a PM), than you missing out on good investments.

@Ellie NarieThis is usually where out-of-state investors will crash and burn is by trying to self-manage a rental and save money.

Just spoke to a property owner we met here on BP.Very nice person who's been DIY managing their double-digit doors after being burned by bad PMCs in the past.Wanted weekly in-depth updates, all rents deposited in their bank account - and then they would pay the PMC their fee, and expected the PMC to use their PM software.Pretty much looking for a go'fer person, NOT a PMC.We wished them good luck.