The community is new and secluded with trees but is NW of Sugar Creek & SE of Oakdale. 

Cleveland itself much cheaper, but Cleveland itself is essentially one big Section 8 ghetto more or less. well I guess the difference is that Whitehawk is at 5k feet.. and all those moutains you see are national forest so LOTS to do.. not surrounded by private property per se like the mid west and the lack of Humidity is a plus in my mind..

hey tim, i should have been more clear. i will be doing all of the property management per se, just looking for an organizational tool via an app or software that will consolidate the communication for my duties. i only have one out of state property and just dont think the amount paid is worth the relatively low stress of this specific quality property and tenant pool. i will look into stessa and buildium- thank you for the recs!

Because I would rather earn less and be more hands off I don’t think it’s about section 8 per ‘se I have a section 8 tenant & she’s been great, it’s about the areas you buy in, if you buy an 100k rowhome in Baltimore it’s gonna be rough regardless of if the tenant is market rate or section 8.   

It's not a scam per se, but it's unnecessary and is designed for people who don't have the financial discipline to apply their excess cashflow to debt paydown.

I'll have to check and see if I need attorney or not, does anyone know if the building is in an LLC and I am a member, can do pro se in Dupage County?

@Jay Hinrichs, looks like he got 7 years.https://www.sltrib.com/news/2017/10/12/utah-man-se...

Bloody oath I do mate.It's never their fault and always yours (Ours).They rarely take any responsibility and cry victim.It's crazy to think but it's like many intentionally look for drama and deep down inside don't want success but rather problems.Someone to dislike and blame and to feel wronged by.All other personal and "at home" issues can now be blamed on this one unfortunate scenario.This "drama" per se is like food for the hungry and they need such drama in life to "survive".My apologies if my above comments sound weird as they are more so from a philosophical standpoint and just some thoughts that I have considered after 5,000+ investor intro calls and as you have mentioned, others feeling wronged by me or my company on many occasions.What a $#@% way to live IMO but I don't judge and sleep in peace.Again, I have been "wronged" by many but consider it my own fault.I also don't call them out publicly or post bad reviews, etc... 

It could be a property on a double lot, a property that get's dismissed because it is full of clutter, a listing that has the square footage wrong etc - and a deal can be made (not found)I’m not a wholesaler per se, but I have done a lot of marketing, at least in the past, due to endeavoring find deals. 

We're looking at a strategy focused on BRRRR (looking at good markets in SE US like Birmingham, AL), and large land wholesaling.