that we’ve learned in our 24 years, managing almost 700 doors across the Metro Detroit area, including almost 100 S8 leases:Class A Properties:Cashflow vs Appreciation: Typically, 3-5 years for positive cashflow, but you get highest relative rent & value appreciation.Vacancy Est: Historically 10%, 5% the more recent norm.Tenant Pool: Majority will have FICO scores of 680+ (roughly 5% probability of default), zero evictions in last 7 years.Class B Properties:Cashflow vs Appreciation: Typically, decent amount of relative rent & value appreciation.Vacancy Est: Historically 10%, 5% should be applied only if proper research done to support.Tenant Pool: Majority will have FICO scores of 620-680 (around 10% probability of default), some blemishes, but should have no evictions in last 5 yearsClass C Properties:Cashflow vs Appreciation: Typically, high cashflow and at the lower end of relative rent & value appreciation.

We have an insurance policy on the rental house (through State Farm), that includes a personal liability section, which is essentially equal to our current net worth.Given that a tenant could sue for more than this if an accident occurred, we are thinking about adding either LLC or an umbrella policy (or both) as extra protection.Any advice on which way to go, and if LLC, any recommendations for a law firm or company the Indianapolis area?

I am getting to the point of wanting to back out due to the 27k combined Closing costs, not including down payment. seems like a I should look into finding a new loan officer.

It’s still a worthy strategy to force cash flow that’s rare to find in SoCal, especially if you can reduce the cost of construction by doing a conversion/using an ADU grant or even buying a property with an existing ADU In general, even if the ADU valuation matches your cost including grants, they are usually not worth it in southern CA in single family zones. 

Also make sure to consider all the aspects you can including the tax differences. 

Some key qualities to look for include:- **Responsive communication**: A PM company that keeps you in the loop and addresses issues promptly- **Local expertise**: Knowledge of the Birmingham market and experience with Section 8 tenants.- **Proactive maintenance**: Regular inspections and quick resolution of maintenance issues to keep tenants happy and properties in good condition- **Transparent reporting**: Clear and detailed financial reports so you know exactly where your money is goingIf your current PM isn’t meeting these standards, it might be worth exploring other options.

I've included an example below to help illustrate this.So different lenders have different rates (which do vary even for DSCR loans) but these are factors they all consider.See example below:DSCR < 1Principal + Interest = $1,700Taxes = $350, Insurance = $100, Association Dues = $50Total PITIA = $2200Rent = $2000DSCR = Rent/PITIA = 2000/2200 = 0.91Since the DSCR is 0.91, we know the expenses are greater than the income of the property.DSCR >1Principal + Interest = $1,500Taxes = $250, Insurance = $100, Association Dues = $25Total PITIA = $1875 Rent = $2300DSCR = Rent/PITIA = 2300/1875 = 1.23DSCR lenders generally let you vest either individually or as an LLC.

Future deals should include a 10-15% buffer for unexpected rehab costs.- You should consider some other lenders.

I have also utilized owner financing for longer periods of time, including personal residence and 2 barrier island houses on the coast of Florida.  

My cost basis for my properties are consistently off from my tax returns because Stessa will include everything in the basis even though it shouldn't be.