There will be many more and there are other meetings that we can talk about offline.

Both prosper.com and Lendingclub had sub par returns and I believe both went offline for a bit to fix reg issues.

Derek - thanks for the info - i will send you an email offline. btw, can u point me to the data referencing the fact that IN is running some % under what it really should be in terms of real estate prices?

I was curious if anyone knows if any of the various offline mapping programs allows you to define a particular area, save it, and make various labels and tags on the map itself.

If you want to discuss the details send me a message so we can talk about the finer points offline.

If that doesn't work (or even if it does) then start branching off into other forms of web advertising (niche sites, behaviorally targeted banners, etc) and then into print and other offline forms of advertising.

We can discuss tomorrow offline if you'd like.

Very slow process but well worth it if you make it.email me off line and I can send you a list of agencies and some information on how to do it.

You concerns about stability are well founded, especially with the FTC breathing down everyone's neck...and while lead gen is easy money, it's one of the most fraud-ridden industries on the planet- even in the offline lead gen world, and long before the Internet came along.

If this is of interest to you then drop me a line and we can talk offline about plans for 2015, my contact info is in my subject line.Also, you brought up a very interesting point on value-add SFH & shares.