I felt that it benifitted the community expanding the buyer pool and increased the value of all owner's property in that development both owner occupant and investor owners. 

Jeff makes up repeated excuses and strange reasons as to why he can't/won't pay (i.e. family emergency, bank is rejecting wires, software/website is buggy, telling investors to go "f*ck their mother").I'm in a group with 30 other investors who were also scammed by him. 

Most of the savvy investors we're working with, even through we'll lend more that this, are coming in at 30% to 35% down.

This creates two loan payments ($100,000 of equity and $300,000 on the new mortgage).Key NumbersHome Equity Loan Interest Rate: 6%Mortgage Interest Rate: 7%Rental Income: $3,000 per monthExpenses (management, taxes, insurance, maintenance): $800 per monthIncome and ExpensesMonthly Rental Income: $3,000Monthly Expenses: $800Monthly Mortgage Payment: $2,000ExplanationThe investor earns $3,000 in rent each month.They pay $2,000 on the investment property mortgage and $800 on other expenses.This leaves $200 profit each month or $2,400 per year.However, you have to pay $6,000 interest on the equity borrowed.This leaves you with an annual loss of $3,600.While the rental property generates positive monthly income, the interest cost of borrowing the initial $100,000 results in an overall loss.

Yeah, I just did a loan for an investor in the North Tahoe area and the insurance was wild, a lot of that is only going to qualify for Cal FAIR unfortunately due to wildfire risk. 

keep going after it. run lots of numbers and do a lot of underwriting. feel free to reach out at any time if you need help in your market. these properties that are 3 units are rented and then a cash out refinance that not only makes money but returns full capital to the investor on DSCR loans similar to the interest rate you mentioned above. 

Consequently it's not accessible to most investors who are skip tracing fewer than 100k searches a month.

As a new investor, your best bet is to start small with an app like DealMachine or Propstream so you have direct control of your options.

Find a local REIA group and network, locally with experienced investors.

Quote from @Clive Duncan: I'm not sure if this forum is still active, but I'm looking to chat with a few real estate investors in Ontario who may be interested in raising funds by selling fractional shares of their property.My co-founder and I are doing some market research so we need to talk to some folks to gather more insights before building this out.If this interests you or someone you know, please reach out.