U invest in the fund and there is no debt ahead of you you own the debt free and clear the only risk is they buy the wrong debt and the underlying collateral does not support the investment.. which is why you go with folks that have a lot of experience in the space and now how to value the collateral.

Certainly not by liquidating their retirement accounts that just suffered an historic drop in value.Do you feel that Oregon’s bias against landlords is a temporary fad, or a permanent change that may even worsen over time? 

U know bill once a month after work is done etc 

U need 1500 GPH at the hydrants.. no street can be longer than 600feet with out dual access..

@Jun Lee One pro that I can think of a solo 401K is there is no UBIT taxes when an asset u invested that had leverage sales.

on the HML did U not get a first position mortgage or deed of trust with lenders Alta ?

U will never hit the numbers ever in renovations as there is no way to know the unknown.. just make sure there is plenty of margin above you all in price and cost of capital. 

And I can tell you u there will be some that read 20% and all that does to them is scream risk. 

@Nathan Harden- agree about OH ....I went to school at Miami U and lived in columbus area for a few yrs  ...many friends that still live there ......I live in Seattle proper ( near  Magnusson Park ...also  own  2  properties in Mason County ......father in law lives on  close to 10 acres close to downtwon Medina so we will be dealing with  figuring out the  best thing to do with this  as he gets  older ( he is  83 now) ...stay in touch

It seems like I need to check further away from the DMV area.My feelings are if you want “cash flow” you should buy a bond (I really like the tips rate right now) there is next to no reason to buy real estate for cash flow, if you are going to buy you should buy with appreciation in mind, which is not to say that’s the route I’d go, I’ve been liquidating properties to put in stocks and money market funds over the last few years and u just did the math and I’ve come out well ahead, but just to say there are arguments for stocks/bonds, there are arguments for levered appreciation, but the cap rates pretty much anywhere aren’t worth it vs an inflation protected bond, especially since a 3/rd of inflation is real estate anywhere, you could get “cash flow” and inflation protection much easier through a tips.