Brian you seem to be very interested in treating people very fairly and really helping them and that's what I am all aboutMany wholesalers who have been taught " to step on people to make money "contact me because they want to help Sellers fix problems and develop a reputation for being fair and honestI had one of my students that was a wholesaler for five years and really hated it because he had to keep going back to the seller to push the price down because the cash buyer wanted to cheaper priceI look at the best way to get started in real estate is to get your license and solve problems for sellers and get testimonials on your website that you were honest and fair helping them solve their problemMy dad was a poor Irish second-generation in Boston and had no money when he was a kid and he became an orthopedic surgeonHe told me "do no harm" when I was a boyI think to me "the wholesaling fever pitch seminar racket" is "stepping on people to make money"An alternative to the "wholesaling only" model is to be able to "help sellers sell on terms verses for cash"Ron LeGrand in Tampa has said to his students get licensed because of the brokering laws in FLI really feel that people should just do the right thing in the beginning, learn every legal way to help people with real estate, and you'll develop a reputation for being a great fair business personif your licensed you can act as a principal and use creative techniques like subject to, lease-option assignment, wraparound mortgages, master lease options, master leases, whatever tool works for the situation

No harm in that at all.

I see No Harm.

Originally posted by @David Hines:Originally posted by @Michael Quarles:If someone believes that buying low and selling higher without performing improvements is unethical and that the buyer is harming the sellers then that person doesn't understand the value of liquidity and convenience.People often ask why a seller would sell me their home for 260,000 when I tell them and prove it to them with both a BPO and Appraisal its is worth 400,000 .

I don't see any harm in their impression of themselves on BP, but a bit more care might be in order when someone is speaking with someone who really is an investor, one with experience and means as they may be laughing behind that smile, knowing the difference between an operator and an investor.   

@Breshawn Hawthorne Despite the lack of harm to the seller, do you find no ethical dilemma in misleading a seller?

Heck that's is such a tiny %.I don't believe a smoker intentions is to cause direct harm; nevertheless in many instances it does.                             

There is a great many tools and tactics still readily available for powers that be to use to prevent a USD failure AND a failing USD would cause too much harm to too many of the world elite at this moment for it to be allowed, they would sooner end the NYSE than the USD, that is a fact. 

I figure if I take low income peoples money in the form of rent then it will be less they have to buy Newport’s ,beer ,and lotto tickets that could harm them .

They have over 1 Million comps in their database to help them form offer prices and analysis and is also a great site for research to find new places to mail.They offer a 7-day free trial period too so there's no harm if you decide it's not for you.Some other good notes to know is that they are super transparent about what they're doing and also really responsive to feedback.