But, the comments do emphasize something I wonder -- most investors make choices and recommendations based upon what they can expect in their own lifetime, and most of the models which they use to support their predictions take for granted that population growth will remain positive, while none of them serve to explain what causes the growth which they observe (i.e.

I can also add from observing others who mis-manage their project, may have a good crew but they mis manage and that otherwise good crew now doesn't do that good, fast a job. 

A spreadsheet helps keep track of expenses and revenues, but most of my decision making comes from what I know, observe and research.It doesn't hurt to have 3M talent either. 

Observe how long they are on the market and keep a record of it. 

When you get there, observe how they live.

I'm really just making a guess about what might happen based on my limited observations.

Cant be more open than that (side note there was a lot of passive aggression in this thread thats not typical of the people in this community, just an observation)

That is very observant of you @Jay Helms, I like the phrase, as it's easy to band about and it's near and dear to my heart.

You had some very good observations. 

Or maybe it's just the current market with low supply as observed it SF.Furthermore, I want to get in touch with local investors, real estate agents and whole sellers to be able to possibly find off-market deals.