.: With the laws that the CA legislation has passed, you could piss off a city inspector and there is nothing they can do about a safe unpermitted unit.Possibly/probably....but I think the point we are all making is - why take chances on losing time and money and stressing yourself out?

It's like investors who hire property managers and don't manage them - they lose money.

The lose in rent would be equivalent to having rented it out for $1,500 a month for a year.

Well I’ve been building houses all my life I just turned 21 back in October and I’ve been wanting to get into investment properties for awhile but nobody around where I live does it or if they do they don’t want to give you insight or advice and I’m just nervous about losing money igWhat's the struggle on the four-plex? 

Mind Excess Business Loss Rules.

It also puts your agent and lender in a tough spot where it could be a perceived "fraud for profit" and they could lose their license and face time/penalties if they knowingly cooperate.

We are losing our appeals.  

It is also risky when you consider that if you lose, you do not get reimbursed for legal fees.If you feel that you will win rather quickly, why not represent yourself?

That's ridiculous, you're losing money just because they are lying to your face and won't stop smoking in the unit.

Ive already started looking further out to do BRRR/Flips as this is one of those jobs I cannot really afford to lose, having it will help me a lot in the long run.