Plan was to do self storage; then found out the creek that sits a ways back flooded 5 years ago, not in a floodzone but all the locals know so self storage is a tough sell at this point. 

It is tough to crack, but it has so much potential. 

Another issue I see with older homes is the layout and functionality is tough to manipulate even during a full gut.

Tough to stay disciplined as "Past performance is no guarantee of future results". 

yes, it is tough here compared to other markets,  But not impossible. most of the time they don't start out at 10%.

It's always a tough call on whether to just do a day trip or pay for a rental as the costs of a nice rental can add up quickly.The TL/DR (which I'll expand on) is that we ended up changing to a strategy of letting others help pay for a cabin that we know we'll love.

It's just tough to know the area, the type of renters, the type of housing, if the repair were quality or lipstick on a pig.I'd think there must be a dozen good PM in Akron. 

Union City I tend to avoid, there are a few pockets that work for MTR but for the most part the city's rental laws make life very tough for landlords. 

We don't currently own any real estate, but are both hard workers and ready to start the learning curve.Looking forward to connecting and getting to know like minded people!

in state BRRRR is tough!