While the duration of market upswings can vary, a five-year investment horizon often aligns well with market cycles.

It has all the components needed I just need to buy it and stir it up and hope I get great results.But if I want a really good cake, that's pretty and I would be proud to take to my mother in laws house at Christmas . . . well I am going to go to my Sister's house and get her list of ingredients and notes on how to buy them.  

A few things to keep in mind:Section 8 requires the property to pass an inspection based on HUD’s Housing Quality Standards (basically making sure it’s safe and well-maintained).The rent you charge has to align with Fair Market Rents (FMRs) in your area, so it’s good to check what similar properties are renting for.You’ll still be responsible for maintaining the property, but the upside is that a chunk of the rent is guaranteed by the government, which can provide steady income.Check with the local housing authority about any specifics for your area—every jurisdiction does things a little differently.This could be a great niche if you can find a good deal on the land and make sure your expenses (like maintenance, insurance, and occasional vacancies) are covered by the rental income.

Yes your advice aligns very well with what I read in David Green's book on Long Distance Investing which was very helpful.

Usually in my experience that tends to come back higher, aligning with the comps, after the actual renovation was done. 

But clearly what they advertise and what you get is not at all aligned

Accepting this deal aligns with your goals of scaling sustainably.

The top chart below quickly shows you what the renovated, avg and distressed homes sell for in that area on a $/sf basis over time, so if you are estimating way over the top line, you instantly know something is off, maybe you have an outlier comp on your hands, etc.It doesn't have STR data, because any STR we build must also pencil as a LTR to avoid being upside down if it doesn't workout, so we use normal residential lease data when underwriting our rentals.As for forecasts on the market, I don't do any aside from the current Q trending % at the footer of the charts, and it's really just the current Q's average data/performance held constant and applied to the rest of the quarter (since not fully done with Q yet).

Current strategy will be to build out as short term rental, 2br 1 ba.Still have not sat down to do business plan, admittedly this is my growth area, but I know its a necessary component to the journey.cheers yall, hope everyone is getting out to enjoy the weather this weekend.

Also, you should update your NAICS code as well to align with your new name and business focus.