- the property is based in Garfield Heights - and that my property tax will be much higher.More details: https://brickbear.ai/share/deal/1/583 Define "area not that great"......It's a high C type area.

The days of quick, minimal-effort flips yielding massive returns are largely behind us, but prepared investors with an eye for neighborhood-specific improvements can still achieve healthy profits.The most successful flippers in today's Phoenix market are those who:- Conduct thorough due diligence on neighborhoods and price points- Build robust contractor relationships- Focus on sustainable, energy-efficient renovations- Stage properties impeccably for the target buyer demographicFor those willing to adapt to changing market conditions, Phoenix continues to offer one of the most dynamic house flipping environments in the Southwest.

We've essentially ruled out investing in our local community because we can't seem to find a good deal (we live about 1.5 hours north of NYC, so purchase prices are very high), so we are considering (1) investing out of state; or (2) investing in some northern NY localities (Syracuse, Albany, Rochester, etc.). 

and that was owner occ.. todays rates are pretty normal actually. what you can do if you want though is find a really good HML and let them place a loan for you making 10 to 12% while your wait for things to change to a situation that you feel you want to move forward be more net return than buying a rental thats for sure. of course no tax bene's but there really is not that much tax benefit on one rental.. so just some alternatives. 

-What’s particularly concerning is that poor tenant placement and high eviction rates don’t significantly hurt FPM’s bottom line.

I'm highly allergic to cats (like super-allergic) and also allergic to most dogs.

that we’ve learned in our 24 years, managing almost 700 doors across the Metro Detroit area, including almost 100 S8 leases:Class A Properties:Cashflow vs Appreciation: Typically, 3-5 years for positive cashflow, but you get highest relative rent & value appreciation.Vacancy Est: Historically 10%, 5% the more recent norm.Tenant Pool: Majority will have FICO scores of 680+ (roughly 5% probability of default), zero evictions in last 7 years.Section 8: Rents are too high for the program and cash paying tenants are better overall.Class B Properties:Cashflow vs Appreciation: Typically, decent amount of relative rent & value appreciation.Vacancy Est: Historically 10%, 5% should be applied only if proper research done to support.Tenant Pool: Majority will have FICO scores of 620-680 (around 10% probability of default), some blemishes, but should have no evictions in last 5 yearsSection 8: Rents are usually too high for the program.Class C Properties:Cashflow vs Appreciation: Typically, high cashflow and at the lower end of relative rent & value appreciation.

Everything's too expensive, interest rates are too high, numbers don't work, etc.  

Quote from @V.G Jason: The amount of folks struggling right now is insanely high.

Although the cost is high for these areas there is little new construction.