Thinking about this thread while ripping some hills on my mountain bike gave me some time to think about it more in depth.

Those companies are just a huge rip off.

Most of the time you end up stroking big checks and wait and lose control and have to go back and fix it anyway.No way I'd wait on somebody (who has no skin in this and doesn't really give a rip) to do this for me while taking forever and getting a month of rent for the privilege.

So it needs to be ripped out, water damage fixed and shower replaced....I self manage from CA and just use an agent to place tenants...no local PM.

This is why I posted this I want to be able to help people, not rip them off.

Feel ripped off of about $100k since they have so many non-performing loans and clearly do not know how to manage the business of repossessing and selling the properties.

Nonaccrediteds have a lot more protections in place to prevent people from ripping them off, but those "rich" accredited's have fewer protections and should be well versed in the risk of every investment, so they don't need you to tell them of the risk in your PPM.

$400/month is a huge difference, just rip the band aid off already.

If your not willing to rip out wooden floors then you may try a strong cleaner with special enzymes for breaking down the smell.

But would never sign up for one of those rip off courses.