Thanks @Hugh Carnaha,Well keep me posted on when and where your next pints/properties meetup is, not to put any pressure but the choice of where you get your pints could indicate the quality of the group (kidding, of course, too many good breweries in SGF).But please keep me posted, would love to get connected going into 2024.Thank you!

Lastly, cities/towns that have well thought out city planning and/or strict zoning if combined with the aforementioned characteristics will almost always lead to supply pressures that work in your favor. 

Your story provides a valuable perspective for those considering real estate investing and offers a refreshing take on the necessity of expensive guru courses.It's unfortunate that many seminars and programs often present themselves as the only path to success in real estate, pressuring attendees to spend significant amounts of money on courses that may not be essential.

There are some good PMs, but taking 10-20% off the top would make it break even at best.Here is our place - https://www.airbnb.com/rooms/606577680390071886The 'blah' places are NOT doing well and there is downward pressure on avg daily rate, but with a high occupancy rate it is fine. 

Built and installed the cabinets, trim work, sanding the stairs, drywall repair/patches, demo, pressure washing, installing new doors, fixtures, etc..

They feel pressure that they have to buy real estate and this mentality often leads to bad decision making.

This takes the pressure off.

One of the impacts is going to be making it more difficult for guests to afford our nightly rates which is going to create pressure to reduce them.

Hey Jerell, I would start with something either turnkey or light value-add, so you can start forming your boots on the ground team with less pressure and risk.

🤷‍♂️Love this post and what Scotty posted.Congrats on your success thus far.As much as I love real estate and business it never is passive and never will be totally passive unfortunately.There is always a risk component involved and a reliance on someone.There will always be that gut wrenching phone call that makes the stomach turn.It all come's down to how much is enough for someone to live a happy life.I unofficially retired at 28 and am back chasing now at 36.Parents and family are getting older and have a huge will and in a way pressure to retire my old man.A beautiful person and father.I've checked off mum and uncle from the list hahaFew more to go lolI am and always will be a "real estate guy" per se but a few years ago I asked myself this question:"How can I get the highest possible return, with the least amount of risk, without doing any work and without involving anyone else?"