We'll eek out a 10% cash on cash but will convert a half bath to a full bath to increase the value substantially.

So we counter back at half   or less of what the broker ask's for..

I went to the free meeting as it was less than 3 miles from me..

I suspect most of those folks will  be somewhat upside down if you take in all the interest they paid on half built homes and the cost to put those homes back into production.How are lot prices in Lehigh ??

Don’t be afraid to reach out and offer value, even if it means going the extra mile in the beginning.

Quote from @Lucas Miles: @Sean Relyea switch to a professional property management software system, Buildium, AppFolio, etc.

@Tyler Bushey nice try, those of us with oil are often a mile or miles from natural gas and propane is $$$ and even if you had gas if  you have one boiler it doesn't solve the problem. 

With my mortgage eating half of my income, it sounds crazy to take a second one. 

I may consider selling off my Indianapolis area SFHs to 1031 exchange to Nevada (Reno or Vegas, looking at those 2 markets) - I think my kids would rather have another home in Nevada (future primary, vacation home or rental) vs dealing with rentals 2000 miles away.

(It reminds me of a tenanant that I had difficulty with.... they always had murphy show up to mess with them)I have about 12k invested, its been long enough that they have paid back about half.