Fraternities, serroritys, students groups, religious groups, nonprofit organizations, social agenda groups, gay, vegetarian, green living ect.

It's the same thing - losing belief that you can improve your financial situation, and handing over the responsibility to luck.So I think that someone like Manuel above can not earn much last year, but having followed his posts for some time, I can say that he is far from "poor", because he doesn't act or think like what I'm describing above.

Because of this belief I am avoiding debt like the plague.

I have one of these today myself, and my belief is that higher rates will be driven by inflation, and that same inflation will be pushing my rents northward faster than my costs.

It's hard to have a fruitful discussion about eugenics (a topic introduced early on in this discussion) without the agreement on a common moral code, which is going to be highly dependent on religious beliefs...There are parts of eugenics that people oppose specifically on religious grounds, but that most non-religious people would not find at all morally objectionable.

They would have to admit that maybe the Greeks were right; maybe the Muslims are right; maybe the Scientologists are right; and that quantitatively (i.e., taking your beliefs out of it), there's JUST AS MUCH CHANCE that other religions are right as yours is.So, I guess my question boils down to:What makes you believe that your religious belief system "holds more water" than any others, outside of the fact that yours may (or may not) have more followers and/or a better propaganda system?

The GOP was smart enough to realize that an important segment of the constituency -- the religious-right working-class white families from the mid-west -- would take to his southern drawl and lack of any intellectual overtones.

During that meeting, I sat through an hour long power point in which one of the presenters was leading the audience to the belief that all lenders are evil and are bound for hell.

And by the way - it wasn't Gore who won the Nobel Prize, it was the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change that won it and they shared it with Gore for his "work" of showing up in their documentary and doing paid public appearances reading and regurgitating their beliefs.

To them, their beliefs were as important as ethnicity is to others.