I know how much most people make in the auto factory where I work and in my option they cant afford it. 

As this is a BRRRR here this would end with a win in either case:70k purchase  +30k reno= ARV $160k able to fully finance out all funds70k purchase +60k reno= ARV $200k able to fully finance out all fundsThe big factor is time, where the larger project would run 4 months knowing the town and timing.  

(Of course, this same phenomenon boosted SFRs too.)The key factor is to buy the property right.  

When I bought EMC Stock, I didn't go visit the factory.

The most important factor is the one thing you didn't mention - the numbers.

I have worked as a pipefitter, farm hand, chef, electrician, car salesman, and quality control technician at a glass making factory.

They had no factories, we had no factories.

Bob, the HOA factor is mentioned time and time again with condo investing and I completely agree with you.

Its basically a one inch channel in a truss installed by the factory that 1 inch fire board slides into, and then they use fireproof tape thats like duct tape and you don't even have to fire mud it going up to the deck.Nice job on the rafters, don't see that much in my area, most the framers around here couldn't do a simple 5/12 pitch like that, everything is trusses in my area, they even trusses dormers here.

Motion on/Motion off Motion on/Humidity off Humidity on/Humidity off Humidity switch is adjustable from 30-Percentage to 80-Percentage and factory set for 50-Percentage Timer switch is adjustable from 30 seconds to 60 minutes and factory set for 10 minutes"here it is!