I also have put a spread sheet together showing the totals for both owner financing and bank loan.

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With a longer relationship with a property owner, those costs can be effectively spread out over more months, though still due up front, of course. 

For a lot of things you can just look up material costs and assume the same for labor. 50% material and 50% labor holds roughly true for the entire project, at least for me here in Milwaukee, your labor cost will probably be higher in the Bay Area.100-125k spread would be tight, even for me here in Milwaukee.

Another would be refinance and invest in more, but if they aren’t cash flowing now, then then won’t after a refi.You could sell them on seller financing so you continue to get a monthly income for a period of time and spread out your capital gains.

One thought if Scottsdale still owned the notes was, see if we can buy them at a discount and make a spread on re-selling them, but having seen that interview, you're probably correct that they had already sold them on anyways, keeping that spread themselves (which never got back to investors!

It should have a good spread to ensure you're not losing money in the long run.

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Thw more dense a project the better chance the numbers work. 30 inexpensive homes on 3 acres will pencil probably before 5 expensive homes will because you still have to spread your infrastructure across 3 acres.

There are many banks that also have their junk fees, higher spreads, which results in a costlier loan.