I'm thinking about buying and holding but I don't feel like cash flow wise it would enable me to stop working as soon as possible which lead me to wholesale and flipping first but I only have 2,000 extra a month to put towards those options there.

I am putting my money where my mouth is and building high density lodging that supports short, medium, and long term stays that is tech enabled, convenient, affordable to the masses, and centrally located in growing markets. 

(Maybe it's all the California sunshine and fresh air that enables us not to grow into "crusty old contractors" and stay physically and mentally able to still work our jobs.

These are advertised in newspapers and through the Chamber of Commerce, and usually take place in the evenings to enable those who work to attend more easily.

Bill is right, many have died to enable us to have the right to vote.

We are 'buy and hold' investors, and our general rule of thumb has been to purchase properties (and choose financing options) that enable us to double PITI on a gross basis (if PITI = $650, then it needs to rent for $1300).Obviously, one of the best ways to effect this ratio is to move from 20% down to 25% down.

Check out the Redfin and Zillow apps - you can get information on the go plus Redfin's app can show you if there are any open houses nearby (you'll have to enable location settings for this to work +effectively).There's even a Zillow Mortgages app that's worth downloading as a handy mortgage calculator.I'm interested to see what other apps the BP community uses/recommends..

I wouldn't rule out hard money - it exists for a reason and could be a short term solution that enables you to get control of a property, add value and then move into a lower-cost lender.

I also believe I need that 'real work experience', or certainly the skills it enables me to further.

Almost seems like you would be enabling the parent to live off the child instead of it being the other way around.