Jerry Norton is a predator scam artist every body dont buy his garbage.LOLThis guru debate will go on and on.An investment of time/money/effort is required in real estate investingIts the "success tax" or the "10000 hour rule" at play, we all have to PAY on the way to success  

I'm from Toledo and know most of the turnkey guys. just make sure to buy later than 1950. don't get the knob and tube and plaster and lathe and cast iron sewer lines. understand that most markets that do turn key or section 8 are going to never appreciate like Cleveland or Toledo or tertiary markets like Akron or Cleveland.

Do you have a price range and are you looking for turn-key properties or something along the lines of a "fixer upper"?

My target tenants are travel nurses and other traveling professionals with the occasional vacationer.I’m curious to know if any of you had success in the area and what have been your keys to success and downfalls.

Relationships are key -this off-market deal was found through a longtime realtor friend and my last seller financed deal was through a landlord/client I worked with for several years. 

@Rick Zink I also wanted to share with you some key questions to ask a lender when you are looking.Are you a direct lender?

The first 4 are real magazines but do not feature his name or any of the important key terms in any of their articles.

VG is the exact same thought process of why investors buy Turn key rentals through turnkey brokers or turnkey companies..

However, the key is partnering with a professional agency that not only supplies experienced VAs but also uses robust systems—like well-known CRMs—to track calls, monitor lead quality, and analyze performance metrics.Keep in mind that not every VA agency is created equal.

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