@Sherief ElbassuoniThank you - love the visual!

I do have a hard time visualizing a case though where the new construction numbers work in a market where the used home numbers don't even when factoring in builder incentives (unless they were massive).

Brian was talking about expanding your deal making toolkit so that you can take down deals yourself using other people's money.You've already heard Jay and others explain why attacking pre-foreclosures with no money available.

It doesn't mean anyone will do it.I have followed Mark's strategies and bought his toolkit.  

Might use some online visualization tools.

I'd go visually inspect the unit, and take a picture of it in their presence (that way they know you have a record ...

So let's visualize the space is used mainly for the bedrooms. 

sorry guys i know its not easy, it would just be easier to see visually the step by step deal in its simplest form as i got that from a local amateur investor. just so i can get the idea. so i wanted to post that up to make sure it was on the right path.. so lets say with no money down.. me and the seller agree on the 23k .. because that was his asking price and i agreed with it..

Yes, there are certain steps that can be taken to help mitigate these risks; visual inspection of the properties by investors before purchasing being one of them.

They probably won't start their lives with the knowledge and toolkit that yours will.