and others that i did not care for their business practice .. but if i wanted to enter the pay to play business I think it would be worth the 20k a year to network with those dudes.. but not my bag 

In the end, you can play with all of them and see which one works best for you.

Any way good luck with it.. sounds like this company's eyes were way bigger than their stomach.. to scale on scattered lots is pretty tough logistically and I guess we are seeing that play out.

@Eric E.UBIT only comes into play in an IRA on leveraged real estate and running an active business.

Watching and playing an active role in the transition from primarily 2nd liens to 1st and 2nd liens, laid the foundation for me partnering with GSP REI.

@Chris Seveney @Marcos A Miranda - you guys are playing with fire - https://www.biggerpockets.com/search?

 @Drew Sygityes it only applies to owner occupied properties regarding penalties, that is not 100% correct, there are fdcpa violations as well as potential state law penalties that can come into play that can be very significant. 

I meditate for 25 minutes, let out my dog, make my coffee and then play piano.

I’m all done playing those games.    

There may be other issues at play here that have little to do with a lack of experience at real estate tech platforms.