The $25M settlement years after the 'University' shut its doors also speaks volumes.Indications are that the programs were a sham similar to some currently delivered by some gurus who convince people to go into debt for programs that don't deliver true learning or skills.Hi Karen,You can spin it anyway that makes you comfortable, but the facts (without the media spin) of why it was shut down are clear.As to the guru end of it, there was an in-field adjunct program sold through seminars (I think through an outfit in Utah that does these kind of things), that like any another product, if you have the money you could buy in and participate.

Then after about a year, I will spin out of the property and do another deal.

Part-timers and many full-timers as well, that spin their wheels and don't have the experience, training or courage to best serve their clients.

@Scott Trench You have the platform to raise capital and purchase hundreds of millions in real estate (and sign non-recourse loans for amounts that would make your head spin).

Then spin it with your vision for the program and see how that looks.

**** WARNING - SPIN FOUND ABOVE *****"In other words, people's property is sinking into the ground, sometimes at rates of a foot a year.

This is a spin off of another thread where we discussed risk, risk avoidance, risk management, and getting over the fears of getting started.   

If everyone on your team doesn't know what your goals are, then you are going to be spinning your wheels around and around and around.  

Honestly, when I think about it too much my head spins. 

Thanks,Gry  I would "spin" the closure of one of the pools, saying that you are creating a quieter apartments area and will be creating a garden area or patio area, etc.