@Jackie Botham  its sad really.. these are folks preying on folks that just don't know any better if you are in the business a little bit you will realize there are no such thing as loans at these terms at least as it relates to new real estate investors.. private lenders are those you eye ball and are your local business men.. professionals with some money to lend...

I joined a local organization in Berwyn called West Suburban Land Lord Association early on, and the men and women their have given me some amazing contractors to work with!

Also, any other suggestions on private money lenders would be greats.Thanks, Brian Knowles They might not even be Hard Money Lenders but middle men for them. think like a brokerage firm.

Get these men in JAIL!

From the time the men leave the shop until they return .  

Take it from Charlie Munger billionaire who said " Smart men go broke three ways- liquor, ladies and leverage."

If those men with guns were to go away, would other men with guns show up and commit violent crimes?

Rent was 750 plus utilities, housekeeping, 900 a month Most my tenants were men, i required first last and $500 deposit on furnished rooms.

I grew up in this industry saw it in its prime in the 60's.. land sales men in those days made BIG bucks..

Also, “Men lie, women lie, numbers don’t.”