If you can poke an ice pick completely through the joist, then yeah, sister it.

Sounds like you already approached them lol.Now that you've broken the ice, just have another conversation with them.

Even if it when you are sitting on your couch, sipping iced tea on an idle Saturday or Sunday afternoon. 

It's the fastest way to break the ice and hear changes in there voice. 

Learn to walk before you try to ice skate in the Olympics.Good luck out there!

I would be happy to buy a 0% cap rate building if I can turn it into a 10% cap building in a reasonable time and the icing of the cake would be the value of the building at a 4% cap for a cash out refi.In my opinion, a 25% reduction in rents will reduce NOI by even more than 25%.

@Jack Hou I know that Bigger Pockets likes to push for cash flow and tell us that appreciation is just icing on the cake.

Appreciation for me is just icing on the cake and you cannot depend on it but only wish for it to happen.  

I might at least start leaving a bunch of 5 gallon cans for the ICE people... 

I ignored it because it's -20 here and it's covered in ice and snow so figured I'd address it in the summer but then my insurance sent a notice that they were canceling the policy because of the trampoline unless I signed an exclusion.