I have some experience dealing with Chinese manufacturers, and they're fairly easy to swindle their prices down to nothing, since all they really care about it making the sale.

Don't get sucked into swindling people if you have to alter numbers.

. § 1341 - Frauds and swindles by Mail18 U.S.C. § 1342 - Fictitious name or address18 U.S.C. § 1343 - Fraud by wire18 U.S.C. § 1344 - Bank Fraud42 U.S.C. § 408(a) - False Social Security Number

I am not trying to swindle anyone, I just want folks to call me so we can talk about their property.

It’s like saying we should also limit newbies that are over the age of 80 because they don’t have much time left and we don’t want them to be taken advantage of where someone could swindle them out of their money.

I have no doubt that there are good turnkey companies out there, but one of my buddies got swindled so I can't help but be skeptical.

These people are good at swindling.

Yeh, struck a nerve as I see many trying to swindle/scam owners.

(You aren’t swindling the guy.. show him the quote from the electrician).

Do not feel beaten up or swindled as many of us did when we started.