San Francisco is ruled by tenants and the policies that politicians enforce always tend to cross the freedom of individual property owners and encourage un-heard transfer of wealth from them to tenants.

And 80/20 is certainly not unheard of, although I wouldn't do a deal for 20% unless it was a monster.

I know it's pretty standard for a landlord to pay the water bill, but it's not unheard of to put this on the tenant.

Rents have also gone way up as well"I understand the high level of appreciation however it is extremely rare (practically unheard of) that rents keep pace in those markets and as such cash flow decreases it does not increase as a result of appreciation.In the example value at $890K rent to break even would be about 8K per month.

Smaller duplex at $250k west of US1 isn't unheard of.

We pay $34 a sqft for quartz, which is unheard of.

I know there are plenty of places in bigger cities where a view of a brick wall is not unheard of.

A large lot in our neck of the woods these days is 5 to 7k sq ft.its un heard of to build lots at 10 to 15k sq ft.

In Birmingham, that is a solid but not unheard of rent ratio for multifamily, especially for an off market deal. 

We still have TV ads running by law firms about foreclosure matters, unheard of five years ago.Dion, you brought up valid concerns but there is another point, the procedure of any lender in trying to obtain a DIL.It's been mentioned here that "lenders" or transactions are being done with advanced agreements to obtain a DIL.