Many have gone like the wind, new ones pop up and will also disappear with the next breeze.Selling crap properties, in crap areas for more than they are worth and then passing on to 3rd party PM that nickel and dimes to death.It's a shame but it's been the same cycle since I started in 2012 and even longer that I remember.I feel sorry for such investors that commit so these providers but I feel even sorrier for those that try DIY BRRR from out of state.Asset classes are variable and "Potato" "Potato" lolFor example, I can almost but guarantee that my B class in Toledo for $90,000 for example is D class in Cinci.Lived in Middletown and owned a few rentals in Cinci so know the market decently.It also comes down to how someone was born and bread.I had investors come from Cali and laugh at me and my "B class" properties.They said it's Z class.Even tho my entire team lives in the area and so did I for 10+ years.No silver spoon in my mouth growing up and I wouldn't sacrifice my families safety in a so called "Z class" area.But we are all different, right?

Ok, brutal honesty @Kyle Doherty.......I got a feeling you showed up to a gun fight with a spoon when negotiated with this builder.

Rgds  It was always interesting when out of state folks visit Toledo and would say our B class is there "Z class" lolI guess being born with a silver spoon causes such a judgement.But it is what it is.Toledo's "B class" has IMO been lower priced with higher cashflow than in pretty much any other market in the Midwest.Won't steal Andrew's thunder here but some decent zip codes to consider on a "street by street" basis are 43609, 43610 and 43620.Wouldn't have touched them back in the day but have been finding some decent pockets lately.43612 and 43613 is "creme de la creme" for full market value.It's a hard gig getting anything under market value nowadays.Much success 🙏👍

You'll find them in greasy spoon diners in the morning and the gold circuit gym class.  

So what you are paying for is the time-savings of having it spoon fed to you versus hunting it down across BP, YouTube, TikTok, etc.

I'm just "starting" my investment journey in Toledo so still learning about the different asset classes haha 🙈It all depends how people are born and bread IMO.Some with a silver spoon and others with a Makita cordless drill 😁I'm sure many folks on the East and West Coast would consider all of Toledo as "Z Class".Current rents are under market.6 unit is located in Point Place which in my "blue collar working class guy" opinion is a solid A class area for Toledo standards.I'm sure the humble folk in Toledo consider what you will find in the images as "A class" due to heavy influx of homeowners.Much success 🙏

Not sure mate but it seems like you where fed with a silver spoon.

Then you should have nothing to worry about.For many years now we have been telling investors to use their own expense deductions when calculating a return on investment.Our marketing team only quotes the “hard costs” as in - taxes, insurance and property management fees.We suggest discounting another 15% from the bottom line for maintenance and vacancy but I’d much prefer for everyone to OVERESTIMATE the expenses and UNDERESTIMATE the income using their own calculations.If the numbers work out then, the investment might be worth pursuing further.Classifying areas can sometimes get convoluted.Since I wasn’t born with a silver spoon in my mouth and consider myself a working class guy, my perception of B class might be someone’s of “Z class” lolMy advice to all is to visit town and see the areas for themselves.I’m confident they will be impressed.Especially if they have already toured other markets with similar price points to ours.Real estate is a rollercoaster of a ride and as much as we want to make it hands off/passive.

Where I live in NY houses go for 600k  plus...unless you are a celebrity or born with a silver spoon or are wiling to work for 60 yers before becoming a home owner... you'll never own a house.Getting creative and using Other Peoples Money is not bad, its sophisticated and 100% valuable.

@Dominique OsbornMaybe you know her and maybe you don't.Well now you do.She is the chassis, the wheels, the engine of our vehicle.I'm just the body (With a tonne of dents hehe)We started the company side by side in a crappy little shared office while eating table spoons of peanut butter for breakfast and drinking $1 gas station coffees just to survive.And hear we are today.A 2 time Inc 5000 company.Then, of course, there are other folks that I'm grateful for that look after our marketing, sales, acquisitions, rehabs, maintenance and so forth.