So, all the fisherman gurus crawl out of the woodwork, telling people that it is better to go after them chasing them trying to hit them over the head (underwater) with a paddle, instead of setting a lure (what fishermen in their lingo call "bait") and let the fish come to them.It is hard.

The issue you run into hard money is what if the price depreciates buy the time you refinance you might be sp a creek with no paddle.

Paddle Boards, options for meals, local attractions and discount cards if the businesses provide. 

Pace will give you the direction, the fuel and the map, the community would be the road and infrastructure, but your effort is pushing the paddle and run the engine that's gonna push the car.

Probably 100+ paddles, bids that seemed pretty exorbitant for most properties, and I got to see the "land bank shenanigans" first hand - even spoke to the commissioner about it who was vocally opposed to their presence; she apparently attends the bank's board meetings to protest their operation.

@Eddie Delaney when you catch a break skip over to San Diego and lets paddle out!

I would take a hard look at the area to make sure you're not paddling upstream.

In one of the deals I participated, the tenants used a small paddle behind the building as the trash bin.

For example, they call out the property and you raise your paddle, they randomly pick someone.

I had never heard of it before either.. but that's what the state after I got my butt paddled made me produce to keep going on a NOTE JV ing.. and to get out of the Howery mess I created unknowingly.But when you do your funds you don't have to worry your not JV ing a note your investor is investing in a fund.. the FUND owns the note one NOTE one owner big difference.