What some people on BP don't seem to understand is to stop making the assumption that everyone is not working their best at thisif you have to provide negative comments or any sort of negativity when providing advice, then advice or recommendations shouldn't be your fortéAs i mentioned before.

It is increasingly more difficult to pay of even one mortgage when you are cashflow negative, let alone multiple.

I am looking to connect with the investors there as the promotors are continuing to take Asset Management fees to the tune of $450K a year (on top of PM fees) even when their payout to the investors is around $20K a quarter (not meeting preferred) and the overall fund is negative about $450K.

Once that phase is complete, I’d transition back into long-term holds.As for the cash-out refi, without at least doubling the rent, I’d be in a net-negative position each month, which doesn’t seem like a worthwhile trade-off.On the tenant side, I agree with your point about the business aspect—it’s something I’m working on coming to terms with.

It could negatively impact the relationship. 

Is this something you use outsourced resources, or are there others on staff that do handle this aspect of things? 

However I haven't found any clarification on this aspect yet. 

Plus I recently got a brand new calculator, wanted to see what out of state investors though the most important aspects of deciding between to similar rates cap rates in 2 varied size apartment. 

The Creative Investor Meetup is designed for beginning to advanced investors who would like additional strategies when constructing deals.All aspects of real estate investing will be covered including (but not limited to) - Wholesaling, Flipping, Buy and Hold and Commercial with an emphasis on Creative Financing.

When I do it at 20% down, I can only find negative cashflow, so I could be looking in the wrong spot, or I need to put more down, or I am missing something all together.I have read that making a 8% return or higher is what to look for, and I can find break even.