Most of the times in my life where I have but my nose to the grindstone to figure it out by myself, I've gotten more discouraged and it's taken me 3x longer to accomplish my goals, if I even do accomplish them.

When seeking multiple opinions for a medical issue, it's likely that all consulted physicians will recommend a cast for a fracture followed by rehabilitation.

I noticed some people in this thread turned there nose up on section 8 and lower class neighborhood rentals but in Detroit THE ONLY way to go is section 8 and anyone that tells you different when it comes to Detroit is totally full of it and getting less than 1/2 of market rent if there lucky.

Yeah, that is on the nose with how they function.

Not choosing to do something because you don’t want someone to be paid makes no sense (cutting off ones’s nose to spite one’s face).  

@Andrew Jennings Freerks you’re right on the nose regarding the rental price.

He basically thumbed his nose at the "naysayers" while other wholesalers cheered him on. 

The same is true for the seller, who can benefit from a hard-nosed real estate agent who will represent their interests without turning off potential buyers who want to niggle about the price.3.

Two stories to share...ONEI have a friend that has a fractured condo.  

The landlord knocked on one door to collect the rent and the tenant broke his nose and said, I told you not to come again for the rent".We had the housing authority (if that is what it was called it at the time) on our butts every day because the tenants would break window screens, break door locks, keep their apartments filthy so they were infested with roaches and rats and we could not keep up with repairs.