And when you do dig deep dive into kochara enterprise, you know their management and boards are consist of :- chairman of Enron- SBF of FTX- some name from Panama Paper- all actors in Netflix’s Dirty MoneyOn this very particular business scheme , there are just too many bad actors involved. 

They do have to step in and pay on the underlying note while they foreclose on the wrap this to protect their credit and theoretically project their equity The issue with all this sub to and wrap stuff is under capitalized investors or investors that dont know enough or investors that have a no morals and just look at these like if it works great I have little money into this no real equity and I am not on the loan so if it does not work I will just walk off .. or really bad actors that get into title rip rents and never pay the underlying I have seen that more times than you can imagine. this sub to  wrap stuff is just super dangerous and I dont care who is training people on it there are just to many things that can go wrong when your sub to deals or wrap deals are with owner occs and their mortgages.. seller carry backs like we did worked fine and the deals were smaller in those days. 

I've had a couple of bad actors, but all in all I've had good experiences and continue to provide this type of housing.   

@Candy Kimbro Congrats on your STR property, nice cash flow for sure.

@Constance Kang  the first set up team are usually paid Hollywood actors. 

The actor Jim Carrey has an interesting perspective “I think everybody should get rich and famous and everything they ever dreamed of so they can see that that’s not the answer.”

You could probably do a postcard campaign and draw up some interest, as there are some really bad actors out there in the property management space. 

If you are an elite actor or athlete or executive, NYC allows you the option to do nothing but excel at that.

All the various consumer laws exist specifically to stop bad actors from doing stuff like this. 

Hiding something.How do you have same actors - Neal,  IVANNIA NAVARRETE etc in Grocapitus and Financial attunement?