Rick tolerances vary wildly and a risk averse person will nearly always say no to anything because they feel threatened.

That’s wild looking at the data.

@Chris Clothier  the point I was trying to make and maybe it did not come out right.is that with real estate you simply cant have linear growth year in year out for 10 to 15 years.Rents simply will not go up year in year out and appreciation depending on market can swing wildly as we know.So while I understand long term IRR projects I was just saying they are still educated guess's as to what the future will holdand 1000% an investor that is not self managing there returns over time will be directly related to the quality of PM and their interaction with PM allowing the PM to do a good job for them.. sometimes owners are their own worst enemy by not allowing PM to keep their homes in tip top condition.a little off subject but my partner and I when we bought our planes.. that was one thing we agreed on there would be not one dime spared on maintenance and keeping those things in perfect shape.. you can see other pilots buy the same plane skimp on everything because it was legal.. but when you look at our plane that is now 14 years old its pristine.

@Eric James This is probably wildly variable between markets, but from personal experience, I'm not sure I'd place any value in it at all.Case in point:  When I got licensed in 2014, I signed on with Weichert Realtors in Scituate MA. 

Time will tell.In conclusion, it's been a wild year with ups and downs.

Time will tell.In conclusion, it's been a wild year with ups and downs.

The seller would be stuck with imputed interest if you wildly successful in negotiating the rate down to zero percent.

Bit of a wild west.

@Bob Waters It really is the Wild West and an unregulated field.

If anyone tries to bust your hump about it, just report them to the board.Part of the problem we have with these wild-wild-west agents is that not enough people report them for rules that are already on the books.