I figure I'll get mayhe 250k from the refi based on 5plex noi and comparables.I'd like to take a loan for the other 350k for example to meet the 10% down payment on a low income building hud loan.Is there an easier way to get into A higher unit commercial building? 

***Fake mortgages are being filed against properties in Cleveland and they are targeting out of state investors.

I don’t do that much of this type of thing anymore because I’m busy enough working on easier deals now. 

Who is your target tenant?  

Buy the rock solid rental and get your appreciation, cash flow, depreciation, principal pay down, equity capture on a discounted by and forced appreciation gain for a well targeted rehab.  

I mean that market can melt down like no other because as I have said thousands upon thousands of vacant lots that can be bought very cheap any day of the week.. so perfect target for these builders to suck in the rental prop crowd with low down payments etc..

Realtors, investors, future investors, lenders, wholesalers etc...I want to start investing eventually, it'll be easier with a team.

Then we also have to track water bills to ensure tenant reimburses us for paying them.Is there an easier and more automated way to track and quickly tally the security deposit refund due to a tenant?

Its easier for the tenants to understand and less likely for them to push back or question.

I don't know anything about these specific guys, but my theory for many gurus is that it's easier to find people to buy their course than it is to find and buy really low-priced houses to flip in the right neighborhoods.