I know one person that did this recently and was able to negotiate no money down and 12% over 5 years but this was probably in the mid west.

If so (and even if not), I would love any recommendations to a loan officer in the metro Detroit area.Thank you in advance,Aaron RaffaelliDo you have either;A- existing primary mortgage payment history. or,B- 12 month verification of rent payments (as your primary housing)you should be able to land a DSCR loan no problem with that approach.

There's obviously opportunity here to build this out and turn it into a basement apartment, which I think would cash flow because of course there's no mortgage. 

The house I regret most for not getting it is this one,https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/N8064-975th-St-River-Fall...I was so close to getting it, but I chickened out because I have absolutely no idea how these houses even exist.

that we’ve learned in our 24 years, managing almost 700 doors across the Metro Detroit area, including almost 100 S8 leases:Class A Properties:Cashflow vs Appreciation: Typically, 3-5 years for positive cashflow, but you get highest relative rent & value appreciation.Vacancy Est: Historically 10%, 5% the more recent norm.Tenant Pool: Majority will have FICO scores of 680+ (roughly 5% probability of default), zero evictions in last 7 years.Class B Properties:Cashflow vs Appreciation: Typically, decent amount of relative rent & value appreciation.Vacancy Est: Historically 10%, 5% should be applied only if proper research done to support.Tenant Pool: Majority will have FICO scores of 620-680 (around 10% probability of default), some blemishes, but should have no evictions in last 5 yearsClass C Properties:Cashflow vs Appreciation: Typically, high cashflow and at the lower end of relative rent & value appreciation.

One great thing about fix and flip loans is that there is no early payoff penalty, so the original lender's commission is not at risk!

No lender is going to do that and PennyMac definitely isn't going to do it.

I’ve worked with a few tools for property intel, and while no service is 100% accurate, some options have stood out for specific use cases:BatchLeads: They offer a solid skip-tracing tool with good accuracy and detailed reports.

Yet, no one seems to listen.

you can find all the info online"...it's like, no sh*t you can...all the information ever is online!