Another lesson is to research companies online and in forums like this before you do business with them and if you decide to do business with someone, dip your toe in the water slowly and continue to research the company after you start working with them, because things can change quickly.I have some questions:1. 

Some tenants had water bill, gas bill, non payment, etc of up to $5000 in balances.

Meanwhile that water bill growing.

I would recommend looking at a loan with a short prepayment penalty if looking to get cash out, that way you can refinance again if rates drop again in the near future. 

Water damage is one thing but getting smoke smell completely can be tricky! 

I believe that if you reverse the screws that turn the 'wings' they will just drop off....then you can pull the boxes out and replace them after doing your wiring.

Quote from @John Key: Quote from @Ray Hage: I had already thought dropping 5 figures into these "mastermind" programs was a bad idea and now, I think it is even worse based on what I read in this thread.

That said, most of our DSCR options have had rates drop over the past few days, so right now is probably a good time to move forward (at an 80% or 75% LTV) as it is very possible to get you rates in the 8s and even low 7s right now at those LTVs, if your credit and DSCR ratio are good.

It's not that I have zero cash, just not enough on hand to close the deal on my own.Purchase Price: $275kRehab Cost EST: $130-$150kARV: $550k-575kLake Front house w/dock (a huge incentive on this lake)I have a little over $30k available but don't want to drop much lower but also hate to miss out on this opportunity.  

When a Class A apartment can be had for the same price as a Class B/C renovated unit, the B/C operator drops prices, and so on.But, in terms of making an investment decision, I think it is short sighted to rely purely on full market average data.