I hear ya and no offense taken or given but you might be in a small fast shrinking minority with this opinion as it has detached from the actual realities on the ground.

No offense to bankers, but they are are going to be biased in their view point.

You can make anything offensive. 

Appreciation is often compared to offense, in the sense that people who get truly wealthy often get there via good appreciation.Here's an example; let's say you have 10 properties that are each cashflowing at $1k per month, so $120k total cashflow per year...not bad, right?

No offense to people vouching for turnkey, but i don't think you learn that much from turnkey investing (you can teach yourself of course, but most people who goes for turnkey will just opt to use the Brokers/lenders/PM/contractors that the provider suggests so there is no exposure to you actually building out your own team).

@Tyler Mullen how would you approach a firm without sounding like a rookie, or offensive?

No offense but where is your money going?...

No offense but this... basically makes me think you've never interacted with a customer yourself.

And psychotics...offensive...both to the nurses and to people who are psychotic. 

However, as the saying goes, “nobody is going to manage your properties as well as you do.†Of course, that’s true, because you’re the owner and nobody cares about your properties like you do.No offense to Jason, but unless you have been managing properties for years, there is no way you can manage your property as well as a Property Manager.