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27 January 2025 | 6 replies
that we’ve learned in our 24 years, managing almost 700 doors across the Metro Detroit area, including almost 100 S8 leases:Class A Properties:Cashflow vs Appreciation: Typically, 3-5 years for positive cashflow, but you get highest relative rent & value appreciation.Vacancy Est: Historically 10%, 5% the more recent norm.Tenant Pool: Majority will have FICO scores of 680+ (roughly 5% probability of default), zero evictions in last 7 years.Class B Properties:Cashflow vs Appreciation: Typically, decent amount of relative rent & value appreciation.Vacancy Est: Historically 10%, 5% should be applied only if proper research done to support.Tenant Pool: Majority will have FICO scores of 620-680 (around 10% probability of default), some blemishes, but should have no evictions in last 5 yearsClass C Properties:Cashflow vs Appreciation: Typically, high cashflow and at the lower end of relative rent & value appreciation.
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29 January 2025 | 0 replies
If one tenant moves out, the property remains cash-flow positive.
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2 February 2025 | 1 reply
So pretty good equity position within a year plus cash flowing well based on a $325k purchase price.
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7 February 2025 | 14 replies
We pride ourselves in keeping the forums positive, helpful, and focused on real estate (please, no politics, religion, etc.).
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7 February 2025 | 11 replies
I haven't dug into the actual agreement, but was curious because I'm not in a position to house hack, but see many people on here recommend the strategy.
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30 January 2025 | 12 replies
I'm totally good with some sweat equity but I'm not in a position to do Roof, siding, structural repairs and such.
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1 February 2025 | 5 replies
If it's net positive, then make sure to do it up to code, etc so the finished square space can count.
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20 January 2025 | 22 replies
that we’ve learned in our 24 years, managing almost 700 doors across the Metro Detroit area, including almost 100 S8 leases:Class A Properties:Cashflow vs Appreciation: Typically, 3-5 years for positive cashflow, but you get highest relative rent & value appreciation.Vacancy Est: Historically 10%, 5% the more recent norm.Tenant Pool: Majority will have FICO scores of 680+ (roughly 5% probability of default), zero evictions in last 7 years.Class B Properties:Cashflow vs Appreciation: Typically, decent amount of relative rent & value appreciation.Vacancy Est: Historically 10%, 5% should be applied only if proper research done to support.Tenant Pool: Majority will have FICO scores of 620-680 (around 10% probability of default), some blemishes, but should have no evictions in last 5 yearsClass C Properties:Cashflow vs Appreciation: Typically, high cashflow and at the lower end of relative rent & value appreciation.
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22 January 2025 | 4 replies
Who has first position now?