Heres the numbers:  Borrower(s)Subject PropertyRate Not Locked 9/30/2024 Sales PriceDown PaymentLoan Amount30 Year FixedContract DepositSeller ConcessionNMLS#  $670,000.00$167,500.00$502,500.007.000% $0.00$0.00  Bank Origination Charges Estimated Title / County / State ChargesOrigination Points % $ - Owner's Title Insurance $ 4,415.00Discount Points % 1.500% $ 7,537.50 Lender's Title Insurance $ - Underwriting Fee Title Search $ - Appraisal Fee $ 650.00 Title Services $ - Credit Report Services (1) $ 299.00 Alta 8.1 $ - MERS Fee $ 25.00 Recording & Transfer $ - Flood Certification $ 8.00 Notary $ - Tax Service $ 85.00 Settement Fee $ - VOE Fee $ 150.00 Total $ 4,415.00 Total $ 8,254.50 Prepaid Interest / Items Potential Additional CostsPer Diem Interest 15 Days $ 1,465.63 Rental 1007 $ 250.00Home Insurance $ 1,800.00 New Survey (if applicable) $ -Flood Insurance $ - 2nd Appraisal / Reinspection $ - Total $ 3,265.63 Total $ 250.00 Escrow and/or Property Taxes Due Total Estimated Monthly PaymentsTotal Insurance(s) 3 Months $ 450.00 Principle and Interest $ 3,343.15Property Taxes 4 Months $ 2,868.64 Total Property Taxes $ 717.16Total $ 3,318.64 Total Insurance(s) $ 150.00 HOA / Maintenance $ - Monthly PMI $ - Total $ 4,210.31Total Estimated CostsEstimated Closing Costs $ 12,919.50 Estimated Escrow Prepaids $ 6,584.27 Estimated Funds To Closing $ 187,003.77

If the platform feels like you are trying to cut them out of their fee, then you may lose the ability to list temporarily or permanently.

It was not uncommon that they bought some of the worst houses (weird layout, dated, much deferred maintenance) in the nicest neighborhoods and then would try to relist them as-is to make a profit before ending up having to do the actual work required to the property for it to sell again, selling at a loss, or maybe making a little bit of money in transaction fees.

what are the HOA fees?

However, you should be cautious buying stuff that no one else did, since there could be a hidden reason why it didn't sell the first time.  

A good private money lender should be transparent about terms and fees, have a solid track record and experience in real estate, and demonstrate flexibility in tailoring loan options to meet your needs.

property tax 11000 home insurance 5000 monthly bills 4800 yearly cost 20800 rent 3500 mgmt fee (20%) 700 net rent 2800 yearly net rent 33600 profit 12800 property value 700000 % profit 0.018285714

Hiring a Property ManagerManaging Yourself:Control: You have direct control over tenant selection, maintenance decisions, and overall management style.Cost Savings: You save on property management fees, which can range from 8-12% of monthly rental income.Challenges: Being across the country means responding to emergencies or maintenance issues can be tough.

Both of those fee structures seems punitively high to me for the MTR model. 

Generally, private lenders offer more flexibility and lower fees than hard money lenders.